The Baby Hatch has been introduced in Malaysia. Yes. Another step, I shall say giant step, toward higher society; to make our country a better place. The statistic showed that dumping the babies cases are surprisingly increasing every year, where 407 babies were abandoned throughout 2005 to 2008.
We should expect decrease in numbers of abandoned babies for the next year when The Baby Hatch has extended its landing gear, establishing its operation for good.
ORPHANCare is an NGO charity organization which offers stability for abandoned babies. They provide several small spaces, somewhat incubators, for a person to put babies at provided locations. Now, unprepared mothers can officially or anonymously hand over the unwanted babies. The mother can choose whether or not to sign registration form.
We, as the people of Malaysia, should be proud and give good appraisal to the one who spark a solution for the abandoned baby thing. Many advantages we can get from the baby hatch:
(1) It will reduce the number of abandoned babies dramatically.
(2) The rate of infant mortality will increases. [via indexmundi]
(3) The willing parents now are able to choose more babies for adoption? A lot of cute unwanted babies. (Just like choosing your t-shirt at J-Card Day)
(4) A Change For Better Life. [via thestar]
(5) Malaysia as efficient as developed countries in handling abandoned babies issues.
But then I look and read again the baby hatch articles, the surprising overall statistics, and rethink on the issues of teenagers these days.
When I try to stand from Islamic angle, I see things different. I changed my mind and I am strictly opposing of what our beloved Datuk Shahrizat Abdul Jalil has introduced.
The act of taking care of abandoned baby is, indeed, very noble and charitable. No doubt about it. But when we have buried one problem, another hole appears on our land. I see that we resolved the problems aroused with short-term method.
The baby hatch is one example. When we have buried the problem of abandoned child, a new and complicated problem is coming on our way.
I think the hatch is a really, really, bad idea. In the a long term, another problems emerge on our Islamic society, which give us nightmare and bad image as an Islamic country.
So, why it is a bad idea:
Encourage People To Do Premarital Sex.
- I always know, in my mind, that someday we will be just like the people in the west, where premarital sex is a common practice among Malaysian. Although our religion has taught us adultery is a deadly sin, yet we ignore it. And Indirectly, the baby hatch may contribute to the increasing rate of premarital sex, fornication, zina, or whatever you want to call it, especially among teenagers because they don’t worry about the consequences. We have baby hatch. We can throw our non-marital baby over there.
Increasing the number of Non-Marital Children.
- The people look back on their shoulder and see worrying numbers of non-marital chidren or anak luar nikah is climbing a ladder steadily. I realized that our marriage constitution is falling apart that divorces below 5 years has became a common trend among our local artists and celebrities
Westernization.
- We have seen how Japan embraced Westernization where they’re transforming every aspect in their life, from laws to religions, and everything in between. We have seen Turkey had corrupted their own religion by worshiping the secularism idea. The Baby Hatch is the preliminary step into the future of modernization, where religion requirement seen as an obsolete and dusty, morality is a minor issues, and modernization is the sacred of the highest truth.
Insulting the section 317 of the Penal Code.
- MyArticlesUnite has brought issues regarding penal code where if you intentionally abandon a child below age of 12. The parent of the child could get 7 years of living life as a prisoner.
Some of us blessed The Hatch with applauds, and some of us don’t. I’m one of the concerned publics who thinks Baby Hatch is a very bad idea. I’ve read several articles that don’t agree with the baby hatch. I hope the government heard our voice that it only brings disaster rather than solution.
39 Responses to Why Introducing Baby Hatch Is A Really Bad Idea
king July 23, 2010
you kolot idiot. Only people like you would think all the bad things about other people’s great work. Why not this way: if you could think of bad things, i am sure you are capable of coming out with solid and workable ideas that can really be used to direct the common young people who, with or without religious teaching, tend to draw to sex because its a biological nature calling. Maybe stop objecting for the sake of objecting. Try to really, really, think of a solution to this age-old pre-marital sex social ills since pre-historic time. How’s that?
tabuxander July 23, 2010
I’m so sorry that my post offends you. I really respect your opinions, but mine stays where it is. Nothing can change that. Especially, not by your immaturely cursing word.
The simple solution to solve this ill, or whatever you want to call it (I call it zina or adultery, which is wrong), is to implement the very best practice in human history; Syariah Law.
There one thing I want to tell you. I will not stop objecting about something that might, I afraid, bring darkness upon ourselves, and our generations. http://kambingbujang.com/wp-admin/edit-comments.php?comment_status=moderated#comments-form
seungujiwaku August 15, 2010
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KambingBujang August 15, 2010
Thank you for your compliment. I will give my background via email.
seungujiwaku August 15, 2010
u’re welcome..sorry but i didnt receive any email from you.. i hope u’ll give it asap~..thanx again
KambingBujang August 17, 2010
I already reply ur email. kindly check it. tQ
alynn August 18, 2010
i have an assignment to do about this topic,and i need to agree with this baby hatch thing. will you give some more examples of the advantages of this matter?
fariny August 18, 2010
I don’t think teenagers think about babies at all when they are considering pre-marital sex. They are consumed by lust and cannot think – that is precisely the problem. So, a baby hatch will not impact the rate of pre-marital sex. People know that sex = pregnancy = babies and yet they do it because they are not thinking. Realise that what to do with an unwanted baby is one thing, but going through unwed pregnancy and delivery isn’t exactly a walk in the park. I doubt a young girl will think “ Yay, now I can have premarital sex because I can dump the baby at baby hatch! Getting pregnant out of wedlock, my growing tummy and delivering a baby when you are 15 yrs old is something very easy to do!” So baby hatch or no baby hatch, young people know that getting pregnant out of wedlock spells disaster. And when they choose to do it, it is moral and religious upbringing that plays the key role, not the presence of a baby hatch.
And do remember the rape victims, the incest victim who have already been violated but now left to face the fruits of their assaulters crimes. What would we have them do? Quit school to raise their father’s/rapists child? They are still children themselves! Our society shuns the female victims and leave them desperate and alone.
And finally, WHY would anyone want innocent, newborn babies to PAY THE PRICE OF OUR SOCIETY’S DECLINING MORALS?? I agree that the one of the root cause is decline in religion but unfortunately, one has to face that this is the reality. And while we should increase our efforts in raising our own children with strong religious and moral foundations, you can never eradicate the world of bad people. Of rapists, of incest, of people who don’t care about religion. Do we then leave the new born baby to be punished for this? To be eaten alive by dogs or left to starve to death in a dumpster? NO. The baby’s life is paramount. While there are still abandoned babies, we have to do something for THEM while we sort out ways to address our declining society. And that could take all eternity. Morals and religion will decline over time until Akhirat. So, are we realistic if we expect that things will get better? And are we ignorantly cruel in allowing all those inncocent babies to die while we hope for a miracle salvation?
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tabuxander August 21, 2010
Don’t you think we, indirectly, support them in doing sex. The responsibility of taking care of that baby is in their hand. Not in the baby hatch’s hand. I agree if we force them to register the moment they throw their baby in. But I have to oppose when the hatch allows them to abandoned their babies. Just like that.
tabuxander August 21, 2010
I try to crack my brain out for you.
The advantages are:
1. The number of the abandoned babies in street, dumpster, trash, will decline.
2. We are one step ahead, or I shall say a big giant leap, when introducing baby hatch. Inline with developed countries such as USA, UK, and Europe countries.
3. We are able to achieve our targeted population of 33 milions in our vision 2020 easily. Thanks to the rise of ‘anak zina’.
4. Government profited the public confidence by moving their NGO vehilcle in the right way.
aswad August 30, 2010
im strongly agreed wth this post…
actually..instead of the existence of the baby hatch, there many ways and guidelines that we can follow in order to reduce the cases of the dumped baby..
we need to look at the root cause of this problem..
actually i can conclude with this..
(teenagers who are lack of religion and morality + Adultery +
Dumped baby at baby hatch =????? think about the life of the babies in the future!!!! im speechless
[sorry for the broken language]
atiqahazmi September 7, 2010
salam alayk and ramadan kareem
‘iman’ is the only solution. and no, we can’t achieve it through only a few hours of ‘kelas agama’ in school per week. there are 3 steps (only) in banishing the issues of jenayah in islam, and zina is one of the jenayahs in islam because it brings bad effects to our body, our deen, our mind and our soul. and the three steps are:
-amal makruf
-nahi munkar
-hudud – which is the last choice
yes I know, when talking about hudud, Islam will be accused of being conservative, cruel, and traditional. But we have the two options before coming to the last option. That is ‘amal makruf’ and ‘nahi munkar’. But many people don’t realise that. Not many who are brave enough to be the real pemuda Islam, fighting the jahiliyyah for the sake of ummah. Remember what Allah has said in the Quran, Al-Asr – 2& 3.
Verily! Man is in loss,Except those who believe (in Islamic Monotheism) and do righteous good deeds, and recommend one another to the truth (i.e. order one another to perform all kinds of good deeds (Al-Ma’ruf) which Allah has ordained, and abstain from all kinds of sins and evil deeds (Al-Munkar) which Allah has forbidden), and recommend one another to patience (for the sufferings, harms, and injuries which one may encounter in Allah’s Cause during preaching His religion of Islamic Monotheism or Jihad, etc.).
Government should generate new approach in islamic education in schools, not just plain kelas agama with the ustaz and the textbook. Just look at the students going overseas for examples – students under the sponsorship of MARA and JPA for medicines, engineering and biotech programmes; they went overseas in the state of not knowing much about their own deen but come back as a whole new-spirited pemuda dan pemudi Islam. Isn’t that what we want. It’s all depends on how Islam is being taught to us.
Call me kolot, call me idiot, call me freaking terrorist; I still believe Islam has the solutions for everything. No need the baby hatch, no need the sex education. We just need the society which take Islam as the deen as a whole.
Btw, KambingBujang, nice piece of thought. Jazakillah khairan kathira =)
shidodido October 1, 2010
im really disagree with baby hatch…huhu
kiwi October 3, 2010
sorry,we just talking about the advantages and disadvantages about baby hatch…what about the baby?is it baby hatch provides a better option for unwanted newborns…anyone would like to give opinion?
donnerNchips October 25, 2010
I could not agree more with the commenter “fariny”. That’s exactly what I have in mind. To the people who call those babies “anak zina”, “unwanted babies” and everything do you think you have the right to call them that? Do you think that if let say as a result of this baby hatch, a good,pious Muslim took one of the baby and raise him/her as the very best Muslim he will forever be lesser than you, who was a “legal” baby? Do you even know that you will be deemed better to Allah than those penzina and anak zina at padang masyar? Please, think about this issue thoroughly.
kim November 13, 2010
for me those who persuade the baby hatch are crazy mad bloody hell..dont think twice,,,better think how to stop the premarital sex in positive way…like digging another hole after burried another….
jejaka November 13, 2010
haza kalam fadhi..fadhi…fadhi.. kullun..la takallam bidduni qarain
mimi December 29, 2010
I do agree with your opinion.
baby hatch is not really a great idea,
this idea just encourage more premarital sex.
Eventhough these babies will be take of good care,
in future, they still want to know who are their parents.
KAZRCRW_ME January 17, 2011
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KAZRCRW_ME January 17, 2011
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Joey February 21, 2011
While it is a step we may see as encouraging premarital sex …think of it this way whether you like it or not kids or youngster now a day is having SEX. It is a fact that you cannot deny. While we cannot stop them we must teach them to take precaution is a more positive way in tackling the issue then just thinking it’s not happening.
I don’t think any religion teaches people to abandon infants or abortion or even is good to have SEX outside marriage. But it is a choice each individual make and of course by right they have to bear the consequences but some choose to abandon baby is their way of running away from the problem. Have a home such as this is not to encourage more abandon babies but it is a way to help the unfortunate.
Once we find out the root of the problem ie. age group that likely abandon or killing the infant. We can take steps that can help reduces this kind of situation.
The point is whether there is this Baby Hatch project no one can guarantee if there will be an increase or decrease in baby dumping/killing cases. We just do the best we can and try to take a more positive step in handling then not to do anything.
fariny February 21, 2011
actually, what ASWAD said was interesting
quote ” think about the lives of the babies in the future!!”
well, the baby seems to have 2 options:
1) drown in a shallow drain while being wrapped in a plastic bag/eaten alive by dogs or maggots/flushed down the toilet bowl
2) get adopted by a childless couple who have longed for years to fill their lives with the happiness that raising a child can bring.
hmm…seems like a tough one but if newborn babies could talk, i know where my vote would be.
people talk about the various solutions but WHAT IS IT? can someone offer something concrete and implementable to stop the declining morals of our society? until someone can offer the miracle solution and can actually ELIMINATE the bad things in the world, perhaps it’s better to do SOMETHING than just standby and click our tongues and wave our fingers at faceless criminals and then go home and forget about all those dead babies.
i like Joey’s point; we just do the best we can and try to take a more positive step than not do anything.
RS March 25, 2011
I disagree with what you’re saying completely.
Introducing a ‘baby hatch’ does NOT bury a problem. You’re not thinking from a large perspective. I’m Muslim as well, I DON’T support pre-marital sex, but a ‘baby hatch’ is a good idea and a respectable solution.
You’re thinking in a very shallow manner. A ‘baby hatch’ by NO MEANS encourage the birth of babies born out of marriage. Tell me something, which Malaysian teenager, Muslim OR non-Muslim, would want to have a baby during their schooling years?? Honestly tell me that. Having n raising a child while they’re in school can put their future and career on hold. It will even ruin some people’s futures.
NO teenager would think ‘oh I’m going to have sex. when I get pregnant and give birth I’ll just drop my baby at the baby hatch’. They WON’T think that. No teenager in the right mind would even WANT an illegitimate baby in a Malaysian society. Their life would be a living hell.
A ‘baby hatch’ is a good solution. It may not be a perfect solution but every life is precious even a child born outside wedlock. What their parents did is between THEM and God. Let them be. It’s God’s job to judge not us. But don’t put the sinless baby’s life in danger.
Please think for a longer period of time before posting such a blog post.
tabuxander March 25, 2011
Yes, I agree with you. No teenagers would ever want that. The babies like that are uninvited to their world. That why they were thrown out like a piece of meat, or nasi lemak that smells funny in the evening.
I would merely suggest that we should not promotely tell the people in the world that we have the baby hatch program. We are making mistake when the teenagers think they have safety net, such as Baby Hatch, for the expense of their adultery sins.
My post is not the act of war against the baby hatch program. I just think it’s just a bad idea. Very. Bad. Idea.
I respect your opinion. And you should respect the others too.
SOFFIAN SHARIFF May 31, 2011
BABY HATCH IS THE DAMAGE CONTROL…
IF ANY BABIES HAVE BEEN THROWN TO DIE IN GARBAGE DUMPS…IT WILL BE YOUR FAULT…I HOPE ALL PEOPLE LIKE YOU DIE IN HELL FLAME…
BABY HATCH IS TO SAVE LIVES NOT TO PROMOTE PRE MARITAL SEX..THEY WILL HAVE SEX ANY WAY AROUND…WITH OR WITHOUT BABY HATCH THEY WILL HAVE SEX..
EDUCATION??? WHAT EDUCATION??? YOU CAN EDUCATE A DOG TO DO TRICKS, BUT IT WILL STILL EATS IT’S OWN SHIT…
i RESPECT YOU VIEWS, BUT I HOPE YOU RESPECT MINE, WHEN I SAY..FUCK YOU!!!! YOU HAVE A MIND SET OF A BABY KILLER…THE SAME AS THE ISRAELI ZIONIST!!!
THE BABY IS ALLAH’S GIFT TO THE WORLD…WE NEED TO SAVE IT..EVEN IF IT IS BORN OUT OF WEDLOCK…I HOPE YOU ARE NOT A MUSLIM, IF YOU ARE YOU MUST DO THE TAUBAT NASUHAH…MUHAMMAD pbuh TEACHES US TO SAVE LIVES..NOT KILL IT…
I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND…ARTICLES LIKE THESE WILL CERTAINLY INFLUENCE PEOPLE TO HATE THE GOVERNMENT.WE MUSLIM’S APPRECIATE LIVES…NOT LIKE ZIONIST THUGS…
YOU COMPARE A HUMAN LIFE TO AN EVENING NASI LEMAK??? YOU ARE INHUMANE…
THIS IS MY PHONE NUMBER 0142356736, IF YOU HAVE ISSUES, YOU CAN JUST GIVE ME A CALL…
lONG LIVE SHAHRIZAT JALIL…SHE IS THE SAVIOUR OF LIFE…IF PEOPLE LIKE YOU WERE TO BE INCHARGED, WE WOULD SEE BABIES IN DUMPSTERS ALL YEAR LONG!!!!!
I’M SORRY FOR THE BAD LANGUAGE!!! THIS IS MY VIEWS… DONT BE SHALLOW… MUHAMMAD TEACHES US TO LOVE AND CARE FOR EVERYONE, REMEMBER WHEN HE ASKED A WOMEN WHO COMMITTED ADULTERY TO NURSE HER CHILD, HE DID NOT SAY THAT THE CHILD MSUT BE NEGLECTED…
“bE WITHOUT FEAR INFRONT OF YOUR ENEMIES,
sPEAK THE TRUTH EVEN IF IT LEADS TO YOUR DEATH,
SAFEGUARD THE HELPLESS AND DO NO WRONG”
anonymous June 27, 2011
baby hatch is not developed to solve abandoned baby issues.it’s to reduce innocent foetus’ and babies death through abortion, abandoning, etc. everything has its pro and cons.but staying true to what i believe, baby hatch can solve one aspect of the issue, while other problems caused or rooted from the issue will be another aspect than we need to come out with a solution for.
sm June 28, 2011
I know baby hatch is for saving the innocent baby’s life.however we dont want encourage our ummah to do zina right?? there are many ways we can do both save the baby’life n make the parents of the dumping babies realise they did wrong in the past because having the premarital sex.they still can ask for forgiveness from Allah and do not repeat their mistake.For example the establishment of “Rumah Raudhatus Sakinah’and Sekolah Harapan which are helping the pregnant teenagers to lead a better life rather than excluded by the comunity or even their family.this would make them to realise their mistake and repent.
we do want to save the babies but why don’t we save our youth or comunity too.Allah did told us to love our brothers/ sisters more than we love ourselves.what are we going to answer at akhirat if we are ask about what did we do to save the ummah???
Baby hatch did solve the baby dumping cases but not 100% effective because the person put their babies there will still be free from being responsible and they might not even felt guilty with what they have done.
*these are my opinion, we can discuss about this issue without saying bad things to each other right??? bcoz we are matured enough to discuuss about this*
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missxenon October 6, 2011
for me, this idea has advantages n disadvantages.this idea depends on acceptance of each individual.
Attira October 18, 2011
Salam semua,
I totally agreed with the introduction of this Baby Hatch..the “anak zina” as tabuxander called the a pure innocent babies who has not sinned at all. These baby Hatch is not about encouraging the teen to have premarital sex, its all about giving these babies a chance to live..to be love rather than being dump like trash.
I understand your ground but as “donnerNchips” mentioned, what makes you think for sure you and those who are calling these babies as “anak zina”, “anak haram” will be going to Syurga-Nya and the babies are condemn to Neraka-Nya?
Look at the program from a baby perspective and you’ll see how this has increases their chances of survival…
mamaphea October 27, 2011
Salam to All,
I do agree that baby hatch program as damage control, but perhaps the registration is a MUST, not optional especially the mother. However, their info is highly private and confidential only to the program owner. Why? Somehow later on the baby need to track his/her biological after he/she grown up.
Yes, this is not a great implementation, but let take it as temporarily. Another program must be run simultaneously in order to help those unmoral teenage who’s has been lost in their live. They also need to be guide, we also dont want these group of teenager neither to proceed to suicide/taking drug/alcohol/prostitution after dumping their baby, nor continue with their free sex life style. Some teenage is can or willingly to be save, but they have no idea where to turn to.
Other simultaneously program is to nourish the very new young teenager who are still very pure and innocent with program that create awareness among them the horror path of free sex style from view of Islam, cultural, how they will ruin their live and so on. But at same time, we also need to provide info to them, where they should turn to if something bad happen to them coz dangerous such as rapist does exist everywhere.
Strict punishment also need to be given to those who support these free sex activities such as cheap hotel/motel that allows young teenage to rent their room.
We have to admit that our society is very sick now. One program can’t cover all, all must be done simultaneously. Perhaps current generation is quit late to be nourish, so we need to have the damage control program. For next younger generation, such nourish program need to be done actively to ensure they really understand the cause and effect and has strong defend of iman so that they wont go for the dark path.
Government n NGO can work together in order to control these situation by taking action in legal way. NGO may come out with a great framework for the nourishing program to youngster. Perhaps if it is very good & present it to Dr. Sharizat, she will take action properly under her ministry.
We need to unite to fight with these scenario, at least what we can do as society, please take care our children, youngster, sisters, neighbours, relative and remind them over and over again. Watch out their activities & guide them thoroughly. Be a caring person for the good of our society.
May Allah guide us all the way, insyaAllah.
Best regards,
mamaphea
Eni January 13, 2012
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Tabuxander January 14, 2012
@eni. I will contact you via personal email
Nadia June 26, 2012
Assalamualaikum.
First and foremost, it is such an interesting topic to be discussed. I’ve read all the comments and I’m very glad that I found your blog. It gives me some ideas and information regarding the issue. To kambingbujang, I’m the next person who would like to have your personal details. Fyi, I’m doing research on a critical thinking paper. Your cooperation is very much appreciated. Tq
Tabuxander June 28, 2012
Ok. Thanks for the compliment. You can email me at filtuse@gmail.com. Ask me anything. Thanks
aida November 5, 2012
i am a mother. and i assume that some of you who hate the baby hatch idea are parents as well.
i want to ask you : would you kill a child just because you didn’t know what else to do with it? better yet, WOULD YOU KILL YOUR CHILD?
i am a MUSLIM AND I AM PROUD OF IT. I do not condone pre-marital sex. but i do not want to have women throwing defenseless babies out of the window just coz they are ashamed of their actions.
If it were up to me, i’d rather be flinging the unwedded parents out of the window so that THEIR heads get smashed on the tarmac below instead. Why should they be allowed to live when they kill their babies.
i have a better question. if you were an baby born out of wedlock – WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE MURDERED BY YOUR OWN MOTHER JUST BECAUSE SHE WAS ASHAMED OF HER ACTIONS? would it be fair? would you be able to just disappear? you can’t because you were already born. So ….to cover up HER AND HIS mistakes, YOU HAVE TO DIE. it’s as simple as that.
DO YOU THINK THAT’S FAIR?
kid February 5, 2013
come on lahh !
sorry anything that hurt your feeling 
hava a nice day ! friend 
do you think the penzina2 itu akan lawat anak diaorg ke nanti ? hmm .
at least , nk hantar tu , bg laa nama kat anak tuhh. nty nk lawat sng , barulahh tak mengabaikan anak , ni , dah zina, anak letak kat bahu org lain , this is not responsible la derr !
takpe2 . anyway aku baru je knal dunia